Tivo Question

[HHamp5246]

Hi Gang,

I'm trying to hook up the Tivo with a multiswitch. I would be simple except I
have the satellite finder involved too.

My question is.... does anyone have an automatic satellite finder, a dual LNB,
Tivo and another receiver?

If so, please tell me the wiring diagram.....

Copy me in an email please, I'm not getting messages.

Thanks,
Hunter




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[MR]

Post by HHamp5246
Hi Gang,
I'm trying to hook up the Tivo with a multiswitch. I would be simple except I
have the satellite finder involved too.
My question is.... does anyone have an automatic satellite finder, a dual LNB,
Tivo and another receiver?
If so, please tell me the wiring diagram.....
Copy me in an email please, I'm not getting messages.
Thanks,
Hunter

Check out the tivo site here for some diagrams.
http://customersupport.tivo.com/searchResults.asp?query=wiring+diagrams&StartingIndex=1&query1=&query2=&query3=&Weight=false&Description=false&MaxNumberOfResults=100&ResultsPerPage=10&Search.x=0&Search.y=0
Good luck,
MR

[Al Malone]

Post by MR

Post by HHamp5246
Hi Gang,
I'm trying to hook up the Tivo with a multiswitch. I would be simple except I
have the satellite finder involved too.
My question is.... does anyone have an automatic satellite finder, a dual LNB,
Tivo and another receiver?
If so, please tell me the wiring diagram.....
Copy me in an email please, I'm not getting messages.
Thanks,
Hunter

Check out the tivo site here for some diagrams.
http://customersupport.tivo.com/searchResults.asp?query=wiring+diagrams&StartingIndex=1&query1=&query2=&query3=&Weight=false&Description=false&MaxNumberOfResults=100&ResultsPerPage=10&Search.x=0&Search.y=0
Good luck,
MR

I don't think that site will help Hunter since it only addresses the
standalone Tivo, not the DirecTV Tivo.

Hunter I don't understand what you mean when you say "Automatic Satellite
Finder" or how that affects the setup. A multi-switch that can handles
multiple receivers is a pretty straight forward setup. The two LNB output
cables go to the input of the multi-switch and the outputs to the receivers.
The output of the multi-switch is essentially a mirror of the LNB output. As
I understand the operation of a multi-switch what it does is use one LNB
output for RH circular polarized signal reception and the other for LH
signal. The receivers indicate which polarization that they want to receive
depending on the channel that you select and the multi-switch makes the
connection to the appropriate LNB. It seems to me that any equipment
connected downstream of the multi-switch should act as if it were connected
directly to an LNB.

I have a Kingdome Automatic Satellite Dome with Dual LNB output connected to
a DirecTV Tivo in my motorhome. If I were going to connect a second
satellite receiver I would simply insert a 2x4 multi-switch to the LNB
outputs and connect the outputs of the multi-switch to the receivers.

Tell me more about your "Automatic Satellite Finder"

Al

[HHamp5246]

Post by Al Malone
Hunter I don't understand what you mean when you say "Automatic Satellite
Finder" or how that affects the setup.>

I'm not real sure myself. I have a box that's the "positioner" for my
automatic dish. Ihave two co-axes attached to it... one says to satellite, the
other says to tv.... so uit seems that box factors into the hook up. If I
didn't have the positioner hooking up the multiswitch would be simple.

A multi-switch that can handles

Post by Al Malone
multiple receivers is a pretty straight forward setup. >

I agree. But.......

Post by Al Malone
I have a Kingdome Automatic Satellite Dome with Dual LNB output connected to
a DirecTV Tivo in my motorhome. If I were going to connect a second
satellite receiver I would simply insert a 2x4 multi-switch to the LNB
outputs and connect the outputs of the multi-switch to the receivers.>

Do the two lines from the dish go right into your Tivo?

I'm working in such a small space, with so much wiring at this point it's hard
to tell what's connected to what.

I do know that whatever I've done both receivers and tvs work correctly..... I
just can't be taping one program on tivo and change the channel to watch
another so it's not right.

Hunter

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"...holy shit...what a ride!"

[Al Malone]

Post by HHamp5246

Post by Al Malone
Hunter I don't understand what you mean when you say "Automatic Satellite
Finder" or how that affects the setup.>

I'm not real sure myself. I have a box that's the "positioner" for my
automatic dish. Ihave two co-axes attached to it... one says to satellite, the
other says to tv.... so uit seems that box factors into the hook up. If I
didn't have the positioner hooking up the multiswitch would be simple.
A multi-switch that can handles

Post by Al Malone
multiple receivers is a pretty straight forward setup. >

I agree. But.......

Post by Al Malone
I have a Kingdome Automatic Satellite Dome with Dual LNB output connected to
a DirecTV Tivo in my motorhome. If I were going to connect a second
satellite receiver I would simply insert a 2x4 multi-switch to the LNB
outputs and connect the outputs of the multi-switch to the receivers.>

Do the two lines from the dish go right into your Tivo?

Yes they do.

Post by HHamp5246
I'm working in such a small space, with so much wiring at this point it's hard
to tell what's connected to what.
I do know that whatever I've done both receivers and tvs work
correctly..... I
just can't be taping one program on tivo and change the channel to watch
another so it's not right.

It sounds like the TIVO may not be properly configured for two LNB inputs.
You may want to check your dish configuration in the TIVO setup menu. There
are three choices if I remember correctly (I'm not at the motorhome right
now): single LNB, dual LNB and Oval dish with the center LNB installed.

Post by HHamp5246
Hunter
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"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well-preserved body,
but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting
"...holy shit...what a ride!"

[HHamp5246]

It sounds like the TIVO may not be properly configured for two LNB inputs. You

may want to check your dish configuration in the TIVO setup menu. There are
three choices if I remember correctly (I'm not at the motorhome right >now):
single LNB, dual LNB and Oval dish with the center LNB installed.>

Al,

Die to the vagaries of AOL, I just read this message.

You are my hero!!! I never thought about reconfiguring the Tivo itself. I had
it all hooked up right after all, Tivo just needed the dual LNB info.

Thank you thank you thank you!!!

Hunter


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"...holy shit...what a ride!"

[Tom Marik]

<< Hunter I don't understand what you mean when you say "Automatic Satellite
Finder" or how that affects the setup. >><BR><BR>

My WINEGARD Automatic RV Satellite System's switch is not a switch. It move
between the 110 and 119 satelite base on the TV channel. The software of the
receiver has to be compatible with the satelite.
The receiver's "Check Switch" routine has to be performed in the correct
sequence and time span of rebooting the antenna.

Nobody from Dish understands this and the WINEGARD technicians are needed once
the "Check Switch" routine is determined to be the problem.

Currently, dual tuner receivers do not support the WINEGARD Automatic RV
Satellite System. I have to record using a seperate device such as one of my
S-VHS VCRs.

Tom M

[HHamp5246]

Post by Tom Marik
Currently, dual tuner receivers do not support the WINEGARD Automatic RV
Satellite System. I have to record using a seperate device such as one of my
S-VHS VCRs.

Well hell,

I guess that's why I can't get this thing hooked up right, even with the
multiswitch...

Hunter
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"...holy shit...what a ride!"

[Peter Pan]

Post by HHamp5246

Post by Tom Marik
Currently, dual tuner receivers do not support the WINEGARD
Automatic RV Satellite System. I have to record using a seperate
device such as one of my S-VHS VCRs.

Well hell,
I guess that's why I can't get this thing hooked up right, even with
the multiswitch...
Hunter

Have a Toshiba DVR (works with sat/cable/OTR etc), also has a 140 GB Hard
Disk, DVD burner, and works on my Home network.. There is a seperate
option/cable/kit for it to control other devices (like a sat receiver)..
Don't know if yours requires/has that option, but from the description of
mine, it's a controller cable that changes the sat receiver to the channel I
want to record. You may want to check the units website to see if something
like that may be required for your setup.
It is billed as Tivo 2.... so may work differently from the Tivo 1.

[Ron Recer]

Date: 1/7/2005 1:59 PM Central Standard Time

Post by Tom Marik
Currently, dual tuner receivers do not support the WINEGARD
Automatic RV Satellite System. I have to record using a seperate
device such as one of my S-VHS VCRs.

Isn't it more a case of WINGARD's dish not supporting multiple receivers?

Ron

[Peter Pan]

Post by Ron Recer

Date: 1/7/2005 1:59 PM Central Standard Time

Post by Tom Marik
Currently, dual tuner receivers do not support the WINEGARD
Automatic RV Satellite System. I have to record using a seperate
device such as one of my S-VHS VCRs.

Isn't it more a case of WINGARD's dish not supporting multiple
receivers?
Ron

Possibly... I have no Idea what hers does, mine signals the dish to re-aim
thru a control kit/cable (in cash of dish and reaiming for two sats to
record. but not for Directv - one sat (unless I go for their HD stuff, then
two sats, but she doesn't have dish or HD)). I was out shopping today (at
an electronics place, yes Janet, that Frys I dragged you to), and they have
control kits (cable is special for the DVR, but goes to the back of the
receiver, to change channels). IE wonder if she can send control sigs to her
dish to re-aim.

With the dual LNB on the autoaim dish, I can have two receivers as long as
both receivers want the same sat.(part of the reason I never went to dish,
and now with voomHD, I can do all my HD stuff off one sat.)
PS If you are curious, voom does *not* do mobile installations.. Had to have
it installed on my friends house, and then move it myself. (no technical
problem with doing it, but you have to be willing to lie)

[RV_Phixer]

Hey Marc,

Drop me a note, will ya?


Dusty

[Cliff]

Post by Ron Recer

Date: 1/7/2005 1:59 PM Central Standard Time

Post by Tom Marik
Currently, dual tuner receivers do not support the WINEGARD
Automatic RV Satellite System. I have to record using a seperate
device such as one of my S-VHS VCRs.

Isn't it more a case of WINGARD's dish not supporting multiple
receivers?
Ron

--
Hmmm, we have a Winegard "In Motion" dish on our MH, two receivers, and they
work fine, only thing I can see is there would be a need for two Tivo's to
record two different channels. For the life of me, I cannot see a way to
hook two receivers to a Tivo at the same time.
This is all conjecture on my part, at the moment I am Tivo challenged!
LOL
Cliff
Our Home Page http://www.cj-and-m.com
.
.

[Frank Tabor]

Post by Cliff
--
Hmmm, we have a Winegard "In Motion" dish on our MH, two receivers, and they
work fine, only thing I can see is there would be a need for two Tivo's to
record two different channels. For the life of me, I cannot see a way to
hook two receivers to a Tivo at the same time.
This is all conjecture on my part, at the moment I am Tivo challenged!
LOL
Cliff
Our Home Page http://www.cj-and-m.com
.
.

You really need to put your text before the sig delimiter. Agent and
Thunderbird and several other news readers won't properly quote you
without jumping through hoops.

On DirecTV, Tivo is the receiver and is capable of seeing two signals
at once to

Record one, play the other
Record both?
Play both-Picture-in a-Picture.

If the two you wish to do something with are on separate satellites
with the Winegaurd antenna, one is SOL since the Winegaurd can only
look at one sat at a time.

[Cliff]

Post by Frank Tabor
You really need to put your text before the sig delimiter. Agent and
Thunderbird and several other news readers won't properly quote you
without jumping through hoops.

Help me here, before the sig delimiter?

Post by Frank Tabor
On DirecTV, Tivo is the receiver and is capable of seeing two signals
at once to
Record one, play the other
Record both?
Play both-Picture-in a-Picture.
If the two you wish to do something with are on separate satellites
with the Winegaurd antenna, one is SOL since the Winegaurd can only
look at one sat at a time.

Ok, but dosen't DirecTV only have one sat.? I know Dish uses two.

-- <------ is this the "sig delimiter?????
Cliff
Our Home Page http://www.cj-and-m.com
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[Frank Tabor]

Post by Cliff

Post by Frank Tabor
You really need to put your text before the sig delimiter. Agent and
Thunderbird and several other news readers won't properly quote you
without jumping through hoops.

Help me here, before the sig delimiter?

See below.

Post by Cliff

Post by Frank Tabor
On DirecTV, Tivo is the receiver and is capable of seeing two signals
at once to
Record one, play the other
Record both?
Play both-Picture-in a-Picture.
If the two you wish to do something with are on separate satellites
with the Winegaurd antenna, one is SOL since the Winegaurd can only
look at one sat at a time.

Ok, but dosen't DirecTV only have one sat.? I know Dish uses two.

Yes, Directv has 3.

Post by Cliff
-- <------ is this the "sig delimiter?????

Yes, that is it. In a lot of news readers, anything added after that,
doesn't get quoted in a reply, unless there are > marks in front.

Post by Cliff
Cliff
Our Home Page http://www.cj-and-m.com
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.

[Cliff]

Post by Frank Tabor
snip<
Yes, that is it. In a lot of news readers, anything added after that,
doesn't get quoted in a reply, unless there are > marks in front.

Post by Cliff
Cliff
Our Home Page http://www.cj-and-m.com
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.

OK! anything to get all my award winning prose quoted LOL

[Alan Balmer]

Post by Cliff

Post by Frank Tabor
snip<
Yes, that is it. In a lot of news readers, anything added after that,
doesn't get quoted in a reply, unless there are > marks in front.

Post by Cliff
Cliff
Our Home Page http://www.cj-and-m.com
.
.

OK! anything to get all my award winning prose quoted LOL

Cliff, you might want to look for a program called OE-Quotefix. I
haven't used it, but a lot of people say it makes Outlook Express a
lot nicer for newsgroups.

[Peter Pan]

Post by Ron Recer

Date: 1/7/2005 1:59 PM Central Standard Time

Post by Tom Marik
Currently, dual tuner receivers do not support the WINEGARD
Automatic RV Satellite System. I have to record using a seperate
device such as one of my S-VHS VCRs.

Isn't it more a case of WINGARD's dish not supporting multiple receivers?
Ron

Gets even stranger with the old tivo 1's, and now the new tivo 2's (no sat
receiver built in, just audio visual plugs)..

[Janet Wilder]

Post by Tom Marik
My WINEGARD Automatic RV Satellite System's switch is not a switch. It move
between the 110 and 119 satelite base on the TV channel. The software of the
receiver has to be compatible with the satelite.
The receiver's "Check Switch" routine has to be performed in the correct
sequence and time span of rebooting the antenna.
Nobody from Dish understands this and the WINEGARD technicians are needed once

the "Check Switch" routine is determined to be the problem.

I had a Dish Network guy a few weeks ago who knew EXACTLY what had to be done
IN AN RV that had just moved. I was amazed! Never happened when I had Direct.
I don't have a fancy WINEGARD (very impressive piece of equipment BTW) like
Tom.

Post by Tom Marik
Currently, dual tuner receivers do not support the WINEGARD Automatic RV
Satellite System. I have to record using a seperate device such as one of my
S-VHS VCRs.

Dish's DVR is a replacement for the receiver, not an extra piece of equipment.
The King Dome will, however need to be moved by a person with a finger on the
button from 110 to 119 and vice versa. This really isn't a big problem as the
NYC and LA networks, PBS and all but a tiny few movie channels are on the 119.
By February we will have saved the $200 needed to upgrade to the DVR through
the $20 per month cost savings between what we paid Direct and what we now pay
Dish. We are considering it.

J

J
Janet Wilder
The Road Princess
Residentially Challenged